# NOTES-LNURL.md What the LNURL mint endpoints **actually** return, recorded from the live reference instance `https://lnurl.21mint.me` on 2026-08-21 and from a locally run [dni/lnurl-mint](https://github.com/dni/lnurl-mint) (commit `a70cae1`) used to reproduce the states the live instance does not currently exhibit. Same rule as NOTES.md: where the software's README and the wire disagree, the wire wins, and the disagreement is written down rather than quietly resolved. --- ## 1. The probe endpoint: `GET /.well-known/lnurlw/{username}` **This is the LNURL equivalent of Cashu's `/v1/info`, and it is not the endpoint the brief expected.** Findings, in the order they mattered: ### `/p` does not exist The brief (and older readings of the project) describe `GET /p` as the LUD-06 payRequest carrying the `withdrawLink` mint advertisement. It is a **404** on the live instance: ``` $ curl -i https://lnurl.21mint.me/p HTTP/2 404 content-type: application/json {"detail":"Not Found"} ``` The repository's own README says so explicitly — the LUD-16 well-known alias is "this mint's **only** payRequest entry point (no separate bare `/p`)" — and `router.py` registers no such route. `/p/cb` (the callback) exists; bare `/p` never did. Note the body shape: `{"detail":"Not Found"}` with a real 404 status is FastAPI's *unmatched route* handler. Every **registered** route answers errors as LNURL does instead (see §5), so this shape is a reliable "this software does not have that endpoint" signal. ### Both well-known aliases answer, and only one carries the limits | Endpoint | Carries | | --- | --- | | `GET /.well-known/lnurlp/{username}` | LUD-06 payRequest: `minSendable`/`maxSendable`, `metadata`, `withdrawLink` | | `GET /.well-known/lnurlw/{username}` | LUD-03-shaped withdrawRequest: `minWithdrawable`/`maxWithdrawable`, `defaultDescription`, `mintPubkey`, `payLink`, node identity | `{username}` is the configured `USERNAME` (default `mint`) **or** the LUD-16 reserved bare-domain `_`. Both resolve to the identical mint identity; `_` is used as the probe path because it needs no prior knowledge of the operator's chosen username. **The chosen primary probe endpoint is `/.well-known/lnurlw/_`**, because it is the one carrying the withdraw limits, the description, and the mint's node identity — every field the site renders. `/.well-known/lnurlp/_` is fetched as a **fallback only**, when the withdraw side does not answer. ### Live response, `/.well-known/lnurlw/_` ```json { "tag": "withdrawRequest", "callback": "https://lnurl.21mint.me/w", "minWithdrawable": 5000, "maxWithdrawable": 999899000, "defaultDescription": "lnurlcash bearer note on lnurl.21mint.me", "mintPubkey": "021ab89df9cbd28cdab8c71d228ca40deba1eaebd827f24849ec4f3e919c023555", "payLink": "https://lnurl.21mint.me/.well-known/lnurlp/mint", "nodeAlias": "Azzamo", "nodeUri": "021ab89df9cbd28cdab8c71d228ca40deba1eaebd827f24849ec4f3e919c023555@145.239.92.138:9736", "nodeColor": "#68f442", "nodeCapacity": 30027500000, "nodeNumChannels": 8, "nodeNumPeers": 18 } ``` Headers: `server: nginx/1.22.1`, `content-type: application/json`. **No version header of any kind**, on this or any other endpoint. Notes on the fields: - **All amounts are millisatoshi.** `minWithdrawable: 5000` is 5 sat; `maxWithdrawable: 999899000` is 999,899 sat. `nodeCapacity` is msat too (30,027,500 sat here). Divide by 1000 for display. - `maxWithdrawable` is **fee-adjusted**: it is `MAX_SENDABLE_MSAT` minus the mint fee at that amount (`router.max_mintable_msat`), not the raw setting. Likewise `minWithdrawable` is `MIN_MINT_MSAT`. So these two numbers are the bounds a freshly minted note's *value* can fall into — which is exactly what a reader wants — and not the bounds of what they must *pay*. The payRequest's `minSendable`/`maxSendable` are the pay-side numbers, and they differ (11,000 vs 10,000 msat locally, because of the 1000 msat base fee). - `defaultDescription` is always `"lnurlcash bearer note on {host}"` — generated, never operator-written. Useful as a description fallback and nothing more; it says what the software is, not what this mint is. - **`k1` is absent.** The model declares it `str | None = None`; its absence from the wire is the first proof that `response_model_exclude_none = True` is in force (`error_handler.py:26`). That matters for everything in §3. ### Live response, `/.well-known/lnurlp/_` ```json { "tag": "payRequest", "callback": "https://lnurl.21mint.me/p/cb", "minSendable": 6000, "maxSendable": 1000000000, "metadata": "[[\"text/plain\", \"Mint an lnurlcash bearer note on lnurl.21mint.me\"], [\"text/identifier\", \"_@lnurl.21mint.me\"], [\"text/plain\", \"Mint fees: 1000,100\"]]", "withdrawLink": "https://lnurl.21mint.me/w" } ``` - `metadata` is a **JSON-encoded string containing a JSON array** of `[mime, value]` pairs — parse twice. - `text/identifier` **echoes the username actually queried**. Querying `_` returns `_@lnurl.21mint.me`; querying `mint` returns `mint@lnurl.21mint.me`. So the probe cannot read the operator's real username off the `_` response. It reads it off `payLink` on the withdraw side instead (`…/lnurlp/mint` → username `mint`), which is built from `settings.username` unconditionally. - The `Mint fees: ,` entry is present only when a fee is configured; its absence means fee-free, per spec. --- ## 2. Every other endpoint, and what it is worth to a probe | Endpoint | Live result | Verdict | | --- | --- | --- | | `GET /` | 200, 13,804 bytes of HTML, `21 lnurl-mint` | Fetched **only** for the onion address (§4) | | `GET /openapi.json` | 200, `info.version` = `"0.1.0"`, `info.title` = `"lnurl-mint"` | **The only version source there is** (§6) | | `GET /docs` | 200, Swagger UI | Ignored | | `GET /w` (no `k1`) | 200 `{"status":"ERROR","reason":"Request validation error: Field required \`k1\`."}` | Ignored — never a mint advertisement | | `GET /w?k1=deadbeef` | 200 `{"status":"ERROR","reason":"Unknown note."}` | Ignored — per-note, not per-mint | | `GET /verify/{hash}` | 200 `{"status":"ERROR","reason":"Not found"}` | **Useless as a capability probe** (§5) | | `GET /p` | 404 `{"detail":"Not Found"}` | Does not exist | The site probes **`/.well-known/lnurlw/_`, then `/.well-known/lnurlp/_` on failure, and `GET /openapi.json` + `GET /` opportunistically**. Nothing else is fetched, and nothing that mutates state is ever called — `/p/cb` would make the mint issue a real invoice on every probe cycle, which is not a thing a directory gets to do to a stranger's node. --- ## 3. The degraded state: no funding source (**empirically reproduced**) The README: *"Without one, minting and melting are unavailable (rotate/split/merge of existing notes still work)."* The question was whether that is visible over HTTP. It is. `_mint_address_response` (`router.py:480`) only populates the node fields `if funding_source.backend:`, and wraps the lookup in `try/except` that logs and leaves them `None` on failure. With `response_model_exclude_none = True`, `None` fields are **omitted from the wire entirely**. Run locally with no `FUNDINGSOURCE_*` set at all: ``` $ curl http://127.0.0.1:8137/.well-known/lnurlw/_ {"tag":"withdrawRequest","callback":"https://lnurl.test/w","minWithdrawable":10000, "maxWithdrawable":999999000,"defaultDescription":"lnurlcash bearer note on lnurl.test", "payLink":"https://lnurl.test/.well-known/lnurlp/mint"} ``` `mintPubkey`, `nodeAlias`, `nodeUri`, `nodeColor`, `nodeCapacity`, `nodeNumChannels` and `nodeNumPeers` are **all gone**. The response is otherwise a completely valid withdrawRequest with real limits — the mint is up, serving, and answering. Its startup log says the rest out loud: ``` WARNING:root:No funding source configured (FUNDINGSOURCE_BACKEND unset) - minting, melting, and offline verification are all unavailable. ``` `/.well-known/lnurlp/_` **still answers normally** in this state (200, full payRequest), so the pay side is *not* a degraded-state signal — only the withdraw side is. ### The detection rule, and the honest thing to say about it > **`mintPubkey` absent from a valid mint-address response ⇒ no funding source is > reachable ⇒ minting and melting are unavailable right now.** One bit, and it necessarily conflates two causes: 1. no funding source was ever configured, and 2. one was configured but the node is unreachable at this moment (`except Exception` above catches it and returns the same reduced response). They are **not distinguishable over HTTP**, and the site does not try. It does not need to: the user-facing consequence is identical in both cases — nothing moves in or out over Lightning until it comes back — and that is exactly what the warning says. Calling it "no funding source" specifically would be a guess; calling it "minting and melting unavailable" is the observation. The same bit also carries two other meanings, which is worth stating plainly because three site features read it: - it is the `signed-notes` capability (`signing.mint_pubkey` needs the same funding source, and the README ties them: *"without a funding source, both fields are simply omitted"*), and - it is the canonical `d` identifier for the Nostr announcement (see `docs/KIND-LNURL-MINT.md`). That last one is why the `d` rule has to be sticky: a mint indexed while its node was up must not silently change identity because its node had a bad minute. See the doc. --- ## 4. Tor / onion: HTML only, and only over clearnet `ONION_URL` is **never** in any JSON response. It appears in exactly one place: the one-pager's "Also via Tor" block (`frontend._tor_section`), and only when the request did *not* arrive over the onion host itself (otherwise `public_base_url` already made the onion the primary and the block would be a duplicate). A clearnet probe is therefore the case where it does show. Reproduced locally with `ONION_URL` set: ```html

Also via Tor

…
``` Cheaply parseable: scan the `GET /` body for a `*.onion` host. The live instance advertises none, so `onion` is absent there. **Caveat worth recording:** the fixture address in lnurl-mint's own tests (`abcdefghijklmnop1234567890abcdefghijklmnop1234567890abcdefgh.onion`) contains `0`, `1`, `8` and `9`, which are **not in base32's alphabet** — it is not a valid v3 address. A strict `[a-z2-7]{56}` matcher rejects it. The site's matcher is deliberately looser (`[a-z0-9]{16,60}\.onion`) so that a real-but-unusual address is still shown; nothing is fetched over Tor, so a wrong match costs a displayed string and nothing more. --- ## 5. LUD-21 verify is **not** probe-detectable (and why the site does not pretend) `VERIFY_ENABLED=false` makes `/verify/{payment_hash}` raise `HTTPException(404, "Not found")`. An *enabled* endpoint asked about a payment hash it has never seen raises `HTTPException(404, "Not found")` too. Both then pass through `LnurlErrorResponseHandler`, which converts any `HTTPException` into `200 {"status": "ERROR", "reason": }`. Measured, same binary, both settings: ``` VERIFY_ENABLED=true → 200 {"status":"ERROR","reason":"Not found"} VERIFY_ENABLED=false → 200 {"status":"ERROR","reason":"Not found"} ``` **Byte-identical.** There is no status code, no header, and no reason string that separates them. The only place a `verify` URL is genuinely advertised is the response of `/p/cb` — the pay callback — and calling that **creates a real Lightning invoice on the operator's node**. Doing that every ten minutes, forever, to every mint in the index, is not acceptable behaviour for a directory. **Resolution:** `lud21` is an **announcement-only** capability. The probe never sets it and never clears it. If an operator declares it in their `features` tag, the site shows it; otherwise the row is simply absent. This is written into `docs/KIND-LNURL-MINT.md` as a normative property of the vocabulary, not left as an implementation quirk. --- ## 6. Version: `/openapi.json`, and only there No `Server`, `X-Powered-By` or any other header identifies the software — nginx fronts it and reports only itself. The one-pager's `` is operator-configurable (`settings.title`; the live instance sets `"21 lnurl-mint"`), so it identifies nothing reliably. FastAPI's generated `GET /openapi.json` carries both: ```json {"info": {"title": "lnurl-mint", "description": "Minimal lnurlcash (LUD-25, Lightning bearer assets) mint - LUD-03/LUD-06 only.", "version": "0.1.0"}} ``` - `info.title` = `"lnurl-mint"` — a genuine software fingerprint, hardcoded in `server.py`, not operator-settable. - `info.version` = `__version__`, resolved from installed package metadata (`lnurl_mint/__init__.py`), falling back to `LNURL_MINT_VERSION` or `"0.0.0+unknown"`. Two observed values: the live instance reports `0.1.0`; a source checkout with no installed metadata reports `0.0.0+unknown`. The site stores `lnurl-mint/<version>`, and treats a `0.0.0+unknown` as **no version** rather than displaying it — it is the library's "I don't know" sentinel, not a release. The live instance still serves `/docs` from a jsdelivr CDN, whereas HEAD (`a70cae1`, *"report real version in openapi, vendor swagger ui for /docs"*) vendors it. So the deployed build predates that commit, and its `0.1.0` is the pre-commit hardcoded value. Recorded because it means **a version string from this endpoint is a weak signal**: it was not always wired to the real package version. --- ## 7. Error convention, and what "online" must therefore mean Every **registered** route returns HTTP **200** for its errors, with an LNURL body: ```json {"status": "ERROR", "reason": "…"} ``` Only an **unregistered path** gives a real 404 (`{"detail":"Not Found"}`). Consequence, and it is the single most important parsing rule here: **HTTP 200 does not mean the mint is up.** A probe that stopped at the status code would call every misconfigured host, every `Unknown user.`, and every wrong-path hit "online". So the site's online test is on the parsed body, never the status: - `tag == "withdrawRequest"` **and** numeric `minWithdrawable`/`maxWithdrawable` → online (or degraded, per §3); - `tag == "payRequest"` with numeric `minSendable`/`maxSendable` (fallback endpoint) → online; - anything else that parses as JSON — including `{"status":"ERROR"}` — → **invalid**, a distinct third outcome that is neither online nor offline. It renders the "Endpoint responding but invalid" banner, because a host that answers with something that is not a mint advertisement is a different problem from a host that does not answer at all. --- ## 8. Summary of what the endpoints expose beyond the withdraw params Everything below is real, observed, and stored in `ecosystem_json`: | Field | Source | Used for | | --- | --- | --- | | `mintPubkey` | lnurlw | `d` identifier, `signed-notes` feature, degraded detection, sidebar row | | `payLink` | lnurlw | Deriving the LUD-16 lightning address (`{username}@{host}`) | | `nodeAlias` | lnurlw | Identity header fallback name | | `nodeUri` | lnurlw | `pubkey@host:port` — the sidebar's node connect string | | `nodeColor` | lnurlw | Not rendered (a node's own colour is not this site's palette) | | `nodeCapacity` | lnurlw | msat, publicly announced channel capacity — sidebar | | `nodeNumChannels` / `nodeNumPeers` | lnurlw | Sidebar | | `defaultDescription` | lnurlw | Description fallback | | `minSendable` / `maxSendable` | lnurlp | Pay-side limits, distinct from withdraw limits | | `metadata` → `text/plain` | lnurlp | Description fallback, ranked above `defaultDescription` | | `metadata` → `text/identifier` | lnurlp | Confirms the lightning address | | `metadata` → `Mint fees:` | lnurlp | Mint fee disclosure (base msat, ppm) | | `info.version` / `info.title` | openapi | Software cell | | `*.onion` | `GET /` HTML | `onion` feature, sidebar row | `nodeCapacity` is explicitly the **publicly announced** capacity only — lnurl-mint sources it from the public graph (`lnd GetNodeInfo` / `cln listchannels`), never from a private `listfunds`/`ListChannels` view. Displaying it discloses nothing the node's own gossip does not already.